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Gracie
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So Hawthorn lose two of their better players in Franklin and Mitchell and their hard running game plan goes out the window and in comes the doubt and the chipping backwards

Could it be that they have over achieved this year or is it just Richmond that over achieves ?

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Topic starter Posted : 29/07/2007 18:22
dalla
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I said at the start of the year that they'd fizz out and that they're just pretenders.

I think they're having a poor patch right now but they have really improved on last year when you look at things with perspective.

I really don't think they're a top 4 team (but then again, I don't think the Roos are either).

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Posted : 29/07/2007 18:29
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Even we managed to get to 2nd on the ladder by Round 10, 2005.

Two years later I'm enjoying the flow on effect! 😀

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Posted : 29/07/2007 18:50
hammers
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hawthorn are a lot like essendon, they have 4 key players, hawth-(hodge, franklin, mitchell, roughhead/sewell, ess- hird, fletcher, lloyd, lucas. if you take out 1, they drop off a bit, take out 2 they struggle a lot, take out 3 they lose, take out all 4 theyre hopeless

i do know essendon won today without hird and fletcher

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Posted : 29/07/2007 20:27
dalla
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They had Sheedy to win for today though, Hammers.

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Posted : 29/07/2007 20:51
hammers
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yeah theres that

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Posted : 29/07/2007 21:12
QuotheRaven
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Funny I heard a commentator say today that Franklin was easily the best pick in that draft....Franklin has had how many good games compared to Deledio's average input....????

... I got nothing

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Posted : 29/07/2007 21:25
RichardMEL
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Gracie wrote:
Could it be that they have over achieved this year or is it just Richmond that over achieves ?

What 15 losses and 1 draw is now classed as over achiving by Richmond?

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Sorry Gracie, I couldn't resist that! (I know what you meant!)

I do think it is interesting what happened to Hawthorn today at their "fortress" without Mitchell/Franklin. Does it mean they've gone crap? I doubt it, but it is interesting that they do seem to have gone downhill in the last few weeks.. which could be as much due to youngsters tiring (like ours) later in the season along with a disruptions to team structures by injuries, etc.

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Posted : 29/07/2007 22:50
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Posted : 30/07/2007 10:08
tigerqueen12
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hammers wrote: hawthorn are a lot like essendon, they have 4 key players, hawth-(hodge, franklin, mitchell, roughhead/sewell, ess- hird, fletcher, lloyd, lucas. if you take out 1, they drop off a bit, take out 2 they struggle a lot, take out 3 they lose, take out all 4 theyre hopeless

i do know essendon won today without hird and fletcher

I think that any team in the AFL struggles without 2-4 of their best players.
Adelaide have been missing Roo and Rutten.
WC were losing without Cousins and Kerr while Judd was playing injured.
Tiges without Cogs and Browny ( we would not be 1 and 15 with them in the team all year.)
I had Kangaroos on the bottom of the ladder this year as soon as Thompson was out. They are obviously doing something right.

The only team in the comp that could still win with 2-4 of their best out are Geelong, because they have fringe players that are talented and ready to go.

Still keeping a keen eye on Alex Rance 2015 & beyond ;)

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Posted : 30/07/2007 10:53
Tom 1972
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I reckon that if the Dawks make the finals they have done very well. I think they will finish 7th-9th on the ladder. Can they improve next year and finish 3rd-6th - ie: sustain their performance?

I'd love to have that problem at tigerland.

PS: I think that the 'roos % will cost them towards the end of the year - might drop down the ladder to 6th-8th. Still an outstanding performance all the same.

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Posted : 30/07/2007 10:56
ceehook
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I was predicting the Hawks V Roos in Tassie on the weekend as a very important , pivital game with the loser in danger of dropping out of the 8

Now they meet the Dons next week determined to send Sheeds out on a good note
then they meet the Lions who are on a roll
then Port who are also on a roll

The Hawks could play good footy 3 weeks in a row and get beaten by teams that are in a purple patch and that would see their finals hopes in tatters.

If I'd said this 2 weeks ago I'd be laughed at.

Trankin, yes % could cost the Roos , they also have a tough run home

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Posted : 30/07/2007 11:40
dalla
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I think both will make the 8 but won't go very far. The Roos, to me, are a better side than Hawthorn.

I'm just stoked that the Roos have come so far with no Nathan Thompson.

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Posted : 30/07/2007 12:46
Willy
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Hopefully we can "pull a Kanga" (or reverse Kanga 🙂 ) next year, and suprise everyone.

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Posted : 30/07/2007 21:36
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