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2016 List Management Thread

Discussion in 'Richmond Ramblings' started by thebigricho, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. Vosstiger

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    That should make @black happy
     
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    Can we eventually hire the Bulldogs list manager Dalrymple?
    I read a news article somewhere he was one of the early spotters of Sam Mitchell.
    Mitchell was initially rejected by all clubs and had to progress through the hard yards of Box Hill Hawks.
    It really is an amazing story of belief.
     
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    When you have 2 picks in the top 5 then this is probably the exception. It's picks 10 to 80 that I'm worried about.
     
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    So predicting a big slide for Geelong and no improvement in the tiges!

    If we did end up with two picks in the top 5 l would like to see us engineer a swap of one of those picks for two top 20 picks eg like the Brisbane trade of their pick 2, 31, 51, 60 to GWS for pick 3 and 16.

    Could then pick up a good midfielder as well as the two talls.

    Only thing to work out first is where we think the bids for Naish will come. No use doing that trade for say picks 8 and 18 and a bid for Naish comes at 16.
     
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    A smart move would be to throw the war chest at Dalrymple, then we'll get quality players cheaply via the draft.
     
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    Peter Wright at Suns won't re-sign yet and wants to wait.
    If this year wasn't a one off he would be a good get.
     
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    That's putting words in my mouth. What I was getting at was that tall key position players taken early in the draft are never a safe option - unless they are absolute champions in the making (and not taken early just because they have height). Roughead (pick 2) and Franklin (pick 5) weren't just tall. Talk to the Bulldogs about taking Tom Williams (pick 6) and the Adelaide Crows with John Meeson (pick 8). Neither of these two would have been in the top 20 if they hadn't have been tall. I had good mail that Meeson was very unlikely to be anything but an average footballer by a Falcons follower. I think he struggled to a handful of games.
    There certainly are may non talls who fail to make it too, but I'm not alone in thinking that talls need more reasearch before you draft them. Post, Putt, McBean, McKenzie, Pattison . . .
    As for the Cats - they weren't even close to a top 4 team this year. They made it on club culture. Will probably slip a little. The Tigers did get Prestia and Caddy. You'd hope we go up a bit.
     
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    Hope is the operative word Project.
    I hope we can keep Prestia and Caddy on the park for the majority of 2017.
    They have both proven to be injury prone so far in their careers, our fitness gurus will need to be on their toes with the right programs to manage their body weaknesses. The other side to this is that they both put their bodies on the line getting the ball, so they are more likely to sustain injury.
     
  9. thebigricho

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    I don't see the logic in expecting a Geelong slide?

    The only really important player they lost is Enright and they have at least partially covered that with Tuohy.

    Essentially the same team that was good enough to win 17 games and finish second last year, and for a team that finished second, didn't get handed a super hard draw.

    Can't see any way they don't finish top 6.
     
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    Knowing our luck TBR, they will experience a resurgence and win the premiership! :(
     
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    Cos they are crap TBR.. :DPretenders .. Pussies... Jerk of a coach... Stop two players (Dangerfield and Selwood) and they are rooted..
    Also lost Bartel and that absolute gun Caddy .. :)
     
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    What do you mean I am putting words in your mouth??

    Your previous post that I quoted said:

    The only way we get two picks in the top 5 is if both Geelong and Richmond finish 14 or worse next year.

    Therefore you are saying Geelong will slide and we will not improve.....unless you didn't mean two top 5 picks.

    Fact is not many players make it be they tall or short. You can name many more players that don't make it compared to those that do.

    What is fact that of all the successful talls in the competition they were mostly taken in the top 20. Therefore our better opportunity to get two good talls is next year with two first round picks. And yes we need to have completed some serious research into the options.

    Or better still trade for the talls like Peter Wright from the Suns.
     
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    The other Yarran has now quit as well
     
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    Yarran has quit.
     
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    Come to think of it.
    News report today says Lethal Leigh not in favour of women's competition being subsidised financially by men's league.
    (Personally, I am not for or against the women's league.)
    But the Brisbane Lions were subsidised at the time and their three-peat now in reality is worthless.
     
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    Sasha running on Perth time.
     
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    Geeezus! You're like a politician. All I was TRYING to say was that Tall Key Position Players taken in the draft are never a safe option to live up to their U18 Report Card, and that outside of the first handful of players taken in the National Draft you generally get a player who's stocks were inflated because of their height.

    Just as many decent tall key position players have come through the Rookie Draft than have come from early National Draft selections.

    I don't understand this Geelong and Richmond thing you're getting at. I'm not sure where you are coming from or going with it. A lot more goes into a clubs chances in the coming season than just the previous National Draft.
     
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    This is probably in Richmond's interests. Is he better than Jayden Post or Liam McBean? If so - go for it!
     
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    This ....

     
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    Gee, I'd happily have accepted three Richmond premierships in a row at any point after 1980. Subsidised or not.

    Cups!
    Ms Tantie.
    xox
     

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