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2017 Player Count Down Thread

Discussion in 'Richmond Ramblings' started by Gracie, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. Gracie

    Gracie Loved Site Immortal

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    Not many players can turn a match by themselves. You need a few mates to help out.
     
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    I am officially bestowing the title of 'Yellow and Black Mike Sheahan' to GB. He has become this forum's foremost prober, with insightful and carefully considered questions adding much to discussions.

    Grigg is certainly not the sort of player that tears a game apart, but he is well regarded as a hard runner and a player prepared to sacrifice himself for the team on every occasion.

    The instructions I think (and hope) he will be sent out with this year are to be our primary defensive midfielder. He has done this well in the past and I see him with the capacity to be our version of Cameron Ling, but I think his ability to hurt opposition offensively is better than Ling's, assuming he is able to finish well.

    Mrs TBR also states that he is a much more attractive individual than Ling.
     
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    Grigg... it's interesting that he rarely comes up in discussion on Y&B ... good or bad... probably our most underrated performer... does his job week in and week out... shuts down opponents but also provides plenty of attack too.
    Only knock is that he is a one sided player. Very important to our team and at this stage doesn't have a natural replacement.
    Easily in our best 10.
     
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    A good ordinary player is Grigg. :)

    Jack!
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    xox
     
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    Today is just 3 more sleeps. Next up is the Captain Trent Cotchin [​IMG]

    Wears # 9. DOB 7/4/1990. 185cm 85kg. Has played 173 AFL games - 20 in 2016. Has kicked 101 career goals - 10 in 2016

    Taken @ #2 in the 2007 draft. Rising Star nominee 2008. Brownlow Medalist 2012. Jack Dyer medalist 2011, 2012, 2014. 3rd in last year's best and fairest. All Australian 2012, AFLCA Player of the year 2012. Club Captain since 2012.

    Averages 23.9 disposals (27 in 2016), 3.6 marks, 0.6 goals and 3.7 tackles (4.6 in 2016)

    Loves the fact Prestia and Caddy have joined the midfield rotation.
     
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    Champion.
     
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    Cotchin .... has a big impact on team performance ... if he is down, the team tends to be as well... his influence is telling either way. Hoping he returns to his elite status this year ... has slipped just below the past 3 years, but with Prestia and Caddy joining the fray and the fast improving Rioli likely to attract focus from the opposition teams, we should see him back on the pedestal.
    My prediction: Will go close to the Brownlow this year.
     
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    Getting one two years in a row would be a good effort.
     
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    Just on Grigg as I have been away. I echo TBR's comments that Grigg does more jobs that on the surface are noticeable. He follows instructions and has played many roles for the team rather than himself.

    For me he has that title which engenders great respect. He is a team man.

    I also think that he will be a defensive midfielder that will run off his man when needed this year.
     
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    Just two more sleeps and two players to go. Today we have Shane Edwards [​IMG]

    Wears #10. DOB 25/10/1988. 182cm 81kg. Has played 187 AFL Games - 19 in 2016. Has kicked 129 career goals 19 in 2016.

    Taken at #26 in the 2009 draft. Has 9 Brownlow votes to his name.

    Averages 16.3 Disposals (18.7 in 2016), 2.7marks, 0.7 goals and 2.9 tackles.

    Stays fit he will play his 200th game this year. Something not many AFL/VFL players achieve
     
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    As a general observation, despite the abysmal performance in season 2016, I have the impression that most players exceeded their career averages last year.
    What is with that?
     
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    Career average includes their first 50ish games where averages are always low. You would hope most 100+ gamers are well above their career average.
     
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    So just to clarify: first 50 games brings the average down. 100 gamers should be well above.
     
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    No not really. It will take a while for the career average to catch the season average.

    Take Edwards career:

    2007....10.30.....10.30
    2008....11.56.....10.93
    2009....12.60.....11.46
    2010....18.80.....13.81
    2011....15.65.....14.22
    2012....17.75.....14.87
    2013....18.25.....15.38
    2014....17.65.....15.73
    2015....18.75.....16.01
    2016....18.68.....16.30

    The first column being the yearly average with the second one the career average
     
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    Following on from our discussion about Grigg, who can be relied upon to do a specific job, how do we see Edwards' place in our plans for success? I see Grigg and Edwards as complementary types of players, both of whom are needed for sustained success. In a way, we want Grigg to be 'amazingly consistent', yet I think the wish for Edwards is to be 'consistently amazing' – that doesn't mean we expect Shane to do 70 minutes worth of extraordinary things, it just means we want him to give us a few X-Factor cameos each week, when we really need them.

    If we truly are a better side this year, in terms of personnel, game plan, etc, then I think Edwards will benefit from this extra support. I see him as part of that midfield-forward hamburger, and if oppositions have their hands full trying to stifle Martin, Cotchin, Caddy, Prestia, Rioli, then Shane could really get off the leash, as long as his role and presence on the field is used strategically. In general, I would like to see him brought on at times during each quarter when the pace has slowed a bit and others' legs are heavy, and the last thing opponents need is a fresh, clever and experienced Edwards, who, at times, can be 'consistently amazing'.
     
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    Edwards .... watch him closely .... he does the things that go unnoticed .... had an indifferent 2016 .... was on the up 2014 and again 2015.... has talent to burn .... hopefully we will see it all this year. As with Cotchin, the inclusion of Prestia and Caddy and Rioli stepping up will free him up to make the magic ....
     
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    And so we come to the last player Jack Riewoldt [​IMG]

    Wears # 8. DOB 31/10/1988. 195cm 91kg. Has played 202 AFL games - 22 in 2016. Has kicked 483 goals - 48 in 2016

    Taken @ # 13 in the 2006 draft. Rising Star nominee 2008. Jack Dyer Medalist 2010. All Australian 2010, 2015, All Australian nominee 2012. Represented Australia in International Rules 2010. Coleman Medalist 2010,2012. Club leading goal kicker every year since 2011.

    Averages 12.3 disposals (14.4 in 2016), 5.5 marks (6.4 in 2016), 2.4 goals and 2.2 tackles

    Newly appointed Vice Captain.

    Superstar
     
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    That brings us to the end of the player countdown.
     
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    Gracie - superb!!!
    Jack - Champion.
     
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