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Team performance - what is missing?

Discussion in 'Richmond Ramblings' started by TigerTimmy, Mar 16, 2016.

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  1. Graeme Bowman

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    Agreed, and it would't hurt if that 'game time' included 2-3 finals. Actually, it's about time we also started getting finals game time into our boys at VFL level. It all counts, it all adds up, and giving our youngsters time in a final against a side like Port Melbourne is a genuinely tough gig.
     
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    The most frustrating thing missing for me still is on field leadership. These guys have been playing together since Hardwick started, it's inexcusable what happened.

    We hit the front with 20 seconds to go and spend way too much time celebrating Ellis's goal. Great leadership would have realised the most important thing is to get set defensively, and would have been barking orders to the
    newer players about where to go and what to do.

    How did Rioli end up on a wing by himself (he may as well have been on the bench), why did we have 3 players in our forward line instead of flooding the defense, why was no one loose at centre half back ready to block any Freo break out of the centre.

    Surely these leaders know what to do in this situation, why was it not done.
     
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    I posted this in the game thread ... probably belongs here and echo's most of the recent sentiment..

    Our problems are many .... Personnel ... we are plugging holes with sub-standard players .. Elton, Batchelor, Soldo, et el. If we are calling out squibs then #5 has to be included..

    Presence of mind / Learning to count chickens ..... for those players who go back .... what is the point of standing on the FB line .... if there was ever a time to fill the holes and block the run out of the centre that was it .... it only takes an extra 4 players ... two on the 50 meter line and 2 between the HBF & BP ..... poor coaching and poor leadership..

    The nub of our problem is sustained performance and intensity throughout a game.... we are fourth quarter specialists ... cannot continue to win games hoping the opposition leave the door open which has afforded us 2 of our 5 wins. We are ranked equal 1st in the comp for our Q4's winning 6 of 8. Along with Geelong (same issues) Adel, GWS and Port.
    Our 1st quarters are average .... our 2nd and 3rd quarters are diabolical.... we are ranked 17th ... having only won 2 of 8 for both quarters. We have not won both 2nd and 3rd qtrs against any team. Given we have won 5 games, this is most concerning.

    Unfortunately there are only a handful who give a 120 minute performance every game ... Nankervis, Grigg and Martin are three.

    Lots to fix .... but we don't have a full complement of AFL level players to call on at this time ... it's all WIP ....
     
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    No one who plays AFL today should be called a squib. No one.
     
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    first quarter against Adel and Bulldogs were not average. Two of the better teams in the comp. We have not been blown away by anyteam in the 1st quarter.
     
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    There is no qualitative assessment in these numbers - it is simply we either lost, drew or won the quarter ... the Average is by comparison to all other teams .. we have won 4 of the 8 first quarters.
     
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    Fair call Andy, squibs don't take the field .... the right term is 'Jibs' .. definition = baulk at, fight shy of, shy away from, recoil from, shrink from, draw back from, stop short of; ....
     
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    Couldn't agree more.

    I'll bet Houli is physically tougher than all of us, an AFL preseason is a fearsome execution of physical courage that very few could endure.

    What he is though is not comfortable with the physical commitment required in matches. Nothing wrong with that, plenty of people in the same boat but it means you have to be so good in other areas that it balances out. And he's not.

    The other factor is most athletes appetite for risk declines as they get older and he is no exception. The instance I highlighted probably would have had a token effort applied a few years ago but now he thinks three times instead of twice.

    Again nothing wrong with that and perfectly understandable but there just isn't a place for it in an elite side.
     
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    If you are referring to my comment, I did NOT call Houli a squib, rather I said "I saw him go the big squib", meaning I saw him hold back when he should have attacked the ball.

    Clarity.
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    I once shared a seafood platter with Houli, and he went the big squid.

    Calamari!
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    I CAN read. I was not referring to your post.

    Pedantically
    Andy :)
    xox
     
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    It was me who took it out of context MsTy.. I corrected myself in a later reply to Andy ...
     
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    Cool!
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    3rd youngest side playing last Sunday. 2nd or 3rd least experienced. We're way younger than many realise.
     
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    Hats off to the turnaround in form for the 2017 by the Tigers, playing group and coaches - awesome!
    It has been tiger-terrific to get that key stat, game wins, in high numbers.
    As stated in previous posts, the current RFC board and Hardwick, backed themselves in to get results this year and they have!
    They are now positioned to answer the question "Can they perform in finals?" A win against Geelong would have all but made certain of the double chance, best way to not lose an elimination final is not play one. Let's hope they still make that happen!
     
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    Team performance - What's missing ?

    set shots

    a plan b for Rance

    better protection for Dusty and ways to release him from tags

    when moving the ball forward thru the midfield and into the forward 50 there is a lack of confidence by an number players

    we don't seem to rove Soldo's centre bounce taps well , last year we didn't rove Hampsons centre bounce taps well
     
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    Apparently we just need more free kicks.
     
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    So in a nutshell, a better coach?
     
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    The rance intially would have surprised everyone
    But surprise spurise he just very bloody good , not perfect innevery scenario

    Felt him left on Harry The could have been a coaching miss

    Dusty protection , he has racked some serious numbers and plenty of those would have been with the aid of deft little blocks or pre orchestred round arounds coaching plus , I saw the Brisbane game life and was a bit disturbed he didn't seem to be getting support I thought a coaching minus

    The confidence with ball in hand and some of the combination s and moves have improved , a lot of that is the coaching and endless drills and video analysis , but a chunk is upto the individual players and their personal development

    The ruck thing - both guys are a bit mechanical with their taps , every midfield has some truly elite players in it (like we have Cotch & dusty) and they read that stuff very well

    Do not all coaching stuff
     
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