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tiger74
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if we lose this one it will feel like 2004 all over again.

come on boys

FIRE UP

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Topic starter Posted : 28/03/2005 17:17
Obelix
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Should be close. Hawthorn was at least as bad as we were.

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Posted : 28/03/2005 17:19
tigerfanatic
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I think after yesterday's insipid performance Wallace will be working them hard on the track this week and we will hopefully see a better Richmond side against Hawthorn. That and I think that Hawthorn are at the same stage as us then Geelong who are clearly ahead of us and will be a good side this year!

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Posted : 28/03/2005 17:25
tiger74
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STAFFORD WILL PLAY NEXT WEEK
so will hartigan, raines, tambling and maybe even guilmour or hilton looked o.k from what i saw of the coburg game on sunday.

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Topic starter Posted : 28/03/2005 17:37
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l'm scared that the Hawthorn l watched were more hard at the ball then the Tiges and the scoreboard didnot reflect the true game they played
If hawthorn belt the piss out of us we will be the laughing stock l will go into hiding

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Posted : 28/03/2005 18:46
scarlett
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Well lets hope Mark graham can do something against his old side because i havent seen him do anything good yet

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Posted : 28/03/2005 19:00
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From listening on the Radio I thought Graham was pretty good up forward in the 4th. I thought that move up to the forward line was relatively successful. Didn't he kick a goal? He was definitely instrumental in one or two. He deserves a spot in next weeks side.

After having thought about it for a day or two:
1. In 2004 we came last. We had hoped for better, but there are no miracle quick fixes. Note: Cats, Dogs, Saints etc all spent time at the base of the ladder.
2. We don't really have a new list of AFL ready players. Out: Ottens, Zantuck, Fiora In: Simmonds, Graham, Knobel. Is this a win? The younger players will continue to improve, the first year players will learn a lot. The only improvement we can realistically expect is from better coaching and a better game plan.

I think we will improve as the year develops and Wallace gets into the heads of the team members more.

I think we should still beat the Hawks.

Run Richie, Run!!
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Posted : 28/03/2005 19:26
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I really want to see Joel Bowden back at CHB - at least the role forces him to be accountable. He spent the last 3rd of last season learning the position, we may as well reap the benefits of having someone who knows how to play the position, especially as it's our biggest problem spot.

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Posted : 28/03/2005 20:02
Djevv
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Andy80 wrote: I really want to see Joel Bowden back at CHB - at least the role forces him to be accountable. He spent the last 3rd of last season learning the position, we may as well reap the benefits of having someone who knows how to play the position, especially as it's our biggest problem spot.

Agreed. I also want Stafford over Knobel.

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Posted : 28/03/2005 20:08
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Agreed Andy, Bowden should play at CHB/HF.
Surprised Roach gets a look ahead of Raines, is there something that is holding Raines back apart from his younger age?
Stafford,Tambling,Hartigan,Raines? must be considered.

Run Tivers Run !!

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Posted : 28/03/2005 20:28
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I don't know about anyone else, but from what i saw of Tambling in the Coburg match, and admittedly it wasn't much, he didn't impress at all. In fact, a couple of the few kicks i saw him get were straight turnovers. Not sure he's ready yet.

Can anyone rate his performance for the "whole" game?

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Posted : 28/03/2005 21:16
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scarlett wrote: Please explain why mark graham is going forward i dont understand !

I'm getting sick of this "Mark Graham was recruited as a defender, therefore he must play there" attitude. Royce Hart was a rover in his early teens & started his Richmond career as a full forward - does this mean we should never have played him at CHF? Dick Clay was a full forward when recruited, yet ended up being a great winger, then full back. Did Francis Bourke play his entire career at one end of the ground?

scarlett wrote: Well lets hope Mark graham can do something against his old side because i havent seen him do anything good yet

Djevv wrote: From listening on the Radio I thought Graham was pretty good up forward in the 4th. I thought that move up to the forward line was relatively successful. Didn't he kick a goal? He was definitely instrumental in one or two. He deserves a spot in next weeks side.

Djevv - from being at the game I can tell you Graham WAS pretty good up forward. He provided an avenue to goal through CHF, took a couple of marks, brought other players into the game with good disposal & showed the benefit of having an experienced, cool head in an otherwise panic-stricken side.

scarlett - if we can take any positives out of the final three quarters, especially kicking 6 goals & "winning" the last, it was the influence of Mark Graham across half-forward. I'm not saying he belongs there permanently, but I'll take a "cameo" performance like that any time.

PS - Djevv, because of my long absence from this site, I've never had the chance to thank you for your prayers, etc to get Richard Tambling into a Richmond jumper. I reckon you showed so much passion for this cause prior to the Draft that Hawthorn's decision to bypass Tambling was "divine intervention". Let's hope he plays next week & shows the Hawks what they missed!!

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Posted : 28/03/2005 21:30
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Moi wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but from what i saw of Tambling in the Coburg match, and admittedly it wasn't much, he didn't impress at all. In fact, a couple of the few kicks i saw him get were straight turnovers. Not sure he's ready yet.

Can anyone rate his performance for the "whole" game?

Still injured

As for Graham, I must admit we do need the extra seasoned defender, but if you only play everyone in the one position you become predictable

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Posted : 28/03/2005 21:41
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For those arguing for Bowden to be moved to CHB, against the Hawks I agree. They lack quality tall forward targets right now so if someone like Ray Hall is out of form then there is no pressure to select him based on height. Joel is easily capable of matching up on Barker or Holland.

LGANTPR

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Posted : 28/03/2005 22:35
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l thought Nick Holland played a very good game against the Swans and was marking very strong & was the best l seen him in many years
A out of form Kellaway could possibly be dropped to make way for Graham so he could take up the role on Holland
It's very obvious that we were shotdown in the running department l'm sure TW will have a very fit interchange setup
& if Brown had the flu why was he playing at all we could have used Raines or even Hartigan
l hope TW is not going to favor players because of there names & high profile
The commentators laughed when saying Richmond & Hawthorn play this week it would be the match of the round for the most unskilled & said do we have to call that or go fishing

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Posted : 29/03/2005 04:58
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joel is not accountable enough to be a chb or defender, we never won a game with him there.
joel should play wing or hff, and be accountable

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Posted : 29/03/2005 07:19
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RE: Tambling, I'm not sure which toe he has bruised, but i DID see him have a couple of set shots in the Coburg game from about 45-50m out. On both occasions, his kicks only went around 35-40m (right foot).

You know those Wayne campbell drop punts that spin too fast, go a bit too high and don't have much penetration?

I know Campbell played better than most of our side on Sunday, but I am sure it was him in the last 1/4. Had the ball just forward of the centre, then waited for 10 secs and kicked a 30m hospital pass to a nest of cats - turnover, goal to Geelong. Had me tearing my hair out!

So, anyway, if Tambling wasn't fit (he was also jogging gingerly too), he should have spent the weekend in the gym.

I really reckon that TW would be well served to drop a couple of senior players to give a few of the younger guys a run. At least Raines I reckon. He stood out in the Coburg game like Hyde stood out in the seniors in terms of the running gameplan (and Raines has Buckley-esque foot passing!!).

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Posted : 29/03/2005 09:02
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stafford is a must we need him in the ruck.hes also far better around the ground and up forward than knobel will ever be.

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Posted : 29/03/2005 10:04
Djevv
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seenitall wrote: I'm getting sick of this "Mark Graham was recruited as a defender, therefore he must play there" attitude. Royce Hart was a rover in his early teens & started his Richmond career as a full forward - does this mean we should never have played him at CHF? Dick Clay was a full forward when recruited, yet ended up being a great winger, then full back. Did Francis Bourke play his entire career at one end of the ground?

Djevv - from being at the game I can tell you Graham WAS pretty good up forward. He provided an avenue to goal through CHF, took a couple of marks, brought other players into the game with good disposal & showed the benefit of having an experienced, cool head in an otherwise panic-stricken side.

scarlett - if we can take any positives out of the final three quarters, especially kicking 6 goals & "winning" the last, it was the influence of Mark Graham across half-forward. I'm not saying he belongs there permanently, but I'll take a "cameo" performance like that any time.

PS - Djevv, because of my long absence from this site, I've never had the chance to thank you for your prayers, etc to get Richard Tambling into a Richmond jumper. I reckon you showed so much passion for this cause prior to the Draft that Hawthorn's decision to bypass Tambling was "divine intervention". Let's hope he plays next week & shows the Hawks what they missed!!

Hmm glad my imagination (what you use when you are listening on the radio) wasn't in error. Good comments. Thanks for your kind thoughts. My thoughts on tambo though is that they should not be playing him unfit. If fit he will give us plenty against the Dawks.

Run Richie, Run!!
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Posted : 29/03/2005 11:01
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Well our game on Sunday is an interactive game on foxfooty so we can see all those clangers from lots of different angles 🙂

LGANTPR

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