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Player wages
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1990-2018 Summary of AFL Player Earnings
 

$                             1990*  2000*  2010*  2014  2015  2016  2017  2018 
 $0-$60,000               442      87        9         2       1       0       1        1 
 $60,001-$100,000       88    132      67        90     65     70      38      24 
 $100,001-$200,000       8    237     153     198    188    185    152    159 
 $200,001-$300,000       -      80     158     147    153    131     140    136 
 $300,001-$400,000       -      22       91     128    131    148     148    145 
 $400,001-$500,000       -        8       45      76      85      89       89     88 
 $500,001-$600,000       -        -         9       32     44      40       53     49 
 $600,001-$700,000       -        2        8       26      21      23      34      46 
 $700,001-$800,000       -        -         2       10      21      18      23      24 
 $800,001-$900,000       -        -         2         6       3        5        9      15 
 $900,001-$1,000,000     -       -         4         2       2        3       11      10 
 $1,000,001-$1,100,000  -       -          -         2       2        2        4        2 
 $1,100,001-$1,200,000  -       -          -          -       -        2        3        1 
 $1,200,001+                 -       -          -          -       2       2        2        3 
 TOTAL                      538   568      548      719   718    718    707     703 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-06/s..._130550772
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#2
I've been looking at income of Uni graduates

AFL footballers are doing way better :-)
I feel the need , The need for SPEED
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#3
Difference is that a footballers income from playing football is a notoriously short time frame. Very few players make it past 100 games and few again earn enough to sustain them for the rest of their lives.

For every Martin there is 500 Townsends
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Those who don't believe in magic will never find it. Ronald Dahl 1978
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#4
no no don't look at the top end of the AFL pay scale look at the other end

sorry cant post actual stats , but suffice to say there are a lot more people with degrees now than back in the 80's & 90's so its value is diminished

as much as 20% of people completing degrees since 2008 are earning little or no money

and a large percentage are under the average wage

scrolling thru Arts Degree grads occupation
retail assistant , retail assistant , shop assistant , barista ....

I mentioned that to my daughter and she said she had 6 friends graduate recently
1 had a job in their field (Accountant ) ,
1 had been out just on 12 months and was starting to get comfortable as a receptionist
still living at home , going out Fri/Sat nites ... their window of opportunity of getting a better job is closing rapidly

yes - the window of opportunity to earn for the footballers is a big thing
I feel the need , The need for SPEED
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#5
Arts degree the degree you do when you don't care how much money you will earn

The graduate with a science degree asks,
'Why does it work?'

The graduate with an engineering degree asks,
'How does it work?'

The graduate with an accounting degree asks,
'How much will it cost?'

The graduate with a liberal arts degree asks,
'Do you want fries with that?
2017 Advocate for the Rising Star Jack Graham
Those who don't believe in magic will never find it. Ronald Dahl 1978
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#6
do we interchange Arts with International studies :-(

they are popular at the moment
I feel the need , The need for SPEED
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#7
(07-03-2019, 14:48)ceehook Wrote: do we interchange Arts with International studies  :-(

they are popular at the moment

International studies is an arts degree: politics + languages.
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#8
Two things strike me here:
1 - player welfare is unbelievably different these days than it was in say the early 2000's. Back then, kids straight out of school earning double what a first year out teacher would be on, with lots of spare time, no education on how to live away from home etc etc.
2 - Anecdotally, in the last 15 years the attitude towards job hunting for Uni graduates has changed, with the current generation having a much higher proportion of graduates unwilling to 'start at the bottom' and work their way up. Therefore, there is a higher % of graduates not working in their field of study, and having to accept jobs to pay the bills.
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(08-03-2019, 12:27)Vines Wrote: Two things strike me here:
1 - player welfare is unbelievably different these days than it was in say the early 2000's. Back then, kids straight out of school earning double what a first year out teacher would be on, with lots of spare time, no education on how to live away from home etc etc.
2 - Anecdotally, in the last 15 years the attitude towards job hunting for Uni graduates has changed, with the current generation having a much higher proportion of graduates unwilling to 'start at the bottom' and work their way up. Therefore, there is a higher % of graduates not working in their field of study, and having to accept jobs to pay the bills.

In terms of football players, my impression is that a lot more of them do business degrees than used to be the case simply because business degrees are the most popular with parents -- its got very little to do with salary. Things like "management", "logistics", "entrepreneurship" and "marketing" weren't available for kids to study in the 1990s. With commerce degrees, you used to be stuck choosing either economics or accounting (with accountants not actually needing a degree, only a diploma), so there were a lot more economic historians and labour economists out there than anyone needed. Many students these days would be better off doing an arts degree -- studying entrepreneurship, tourism, international business or the like is just a new way of doing an arts degree really.
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